Was meint Ihr, lohnt sich der einstig hier?

www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/...ts-idUSDUL00014520110531

nützt kein hadern und sich in die Hose machen, keine dummen Sprüche klopfen,oder gute Ratschläge geben, sondern handeln, handeln, handeln.
Habe gekauft 0,171 80.000 Frankfurt. Depot 420K
Blauwal

zieht Moodys erstmal das downgrading durch....

13:00 31May11 RNS-REG - Bank of Ireland(Gov) - Capital Raising Update
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RNS Number : 5459H
Bank of Ireland(Governor&Co)
31 May 2011

The Governor and Company of the Bank of Ireland (Bank of Ireland)

Capital Raising Update

31 May 2011

Bank of Ireland notes the statement made by the Minister for Finance on 11 May 2011 relating to burden sharing with
subordinated bondholders.

The Bank intends shortly to launch a liability management exercise in respect of approximately E2.6 billion of its
subordinated liabilities.  The terms of the liability management exercise will reflect the Minister for Finance's objective
of ensuring subordinated bondholders contribute a significant element of the Bank's Core Tier 1 capital requirement of E4.2
billion.  The Bank's current expectation is that the cash prices under the exercise will be 10 per cent of nominal for Tier
1 securities and 20 per cent of nominal for Tier 2 securities, with no payment in respect of accrued interest.  The
liability management exercise will incorporate proposals to amend the terms of the relevant subordinated liabilities to
grant a call option, allowing the Bank to acquire the securities for a cash amount which would be materially less than the
cash tender terms listed above.  The Bank may also offer an equity alternative to subordinated bondholders incorporating
both a premium to the cash alternative and a payment in respect of interest accrued.

To the extent that subordinated liabilities are not acquired or exchanged pursuant to the proposed liability management
exercise or acquired pursuant to the exercise of the call options under the amended terms of the eligible subordinated
liabilities, the Bank understands that the Government will take whatever steps it considers necessary to maximise burden
sharing.

In addition to the proposed liability management exercise, the Bank, as outlined in its Interim Management Statement of 19
May 2011, continues to work actively with its advisors on a range of initiatives with a view to meeting the equity capital
requirement arising from the 2011 PCAR process through a combination of support from existing shareholders (including the
State) and other sources.

The securities that may be offered in the liability management exercise have not been and will not be registered under the
U.S. Securities Act of 1933 and may not be offered or sold in the United States or to US persons absent registration or an
applicable exemption from registration requirements.

.....

This information is provided by RNS
The company news service from the London Stock Exchange

Quelle: Reuters

www.bankofireland.com/fs/doc/publications/...aising-update.pdf

hast recht...
Danke an soopafly fürs schnelle finden, ist ja alles im Grunde wie erwartet - oder hab ich da was überlesen?

10 per cent of nominal for Tier 1 securities and 20 per cent of nominal for Tier 2 securities würde die Verwässerung im Rahmen der Erwartungen liegen. Was die Börse darraus macht ist eine Sache - was ich darraus mache ist damit klar.
Ich bin zufrieden.

"...The securities that may be offered in the liability management exercise have not been and will not be registered under the U.S. Securities Act of 1933 and may not be offered or sold in the United States or to US persons absent registration or an applicable exemption from registration requirements..."

Tja die Leerverkäufer können sich ja in Europa eindecken... oder ?

www.irishlifepermanent.ie/media-centre/...2011/31-05-2011.aspx

Proposed Liability Management Exercise by Irish Life & Permanent plc
31 May 2011

Irish Life & Permanent plc (“IL&P”) notes the statement by the Minister for Finance on 11 May 2011 with regard to burden sharing with subordinated bondholders of IL&P.

IL&P intends to launch a liability management exercise in respect of up to €840 million of its subordinated liabilities. This exercise is expected to be in the form of a cash tender offer. IL&P’s current expectation is that the cash prices under the exercise will be 20 per cent of nominal for the relevant subordinated liabilities, save in the case of one series of zero coupon subordinated liabilities where the cash price is expected to be 8.6355 per cent of the nominal amount. No payment in respect of accrued interest will be made on any of the subordinated liabilities. The exercise will also involve noteholders' meetings to approve certain amendments giving IL&P the right to redeem the subordinated liabilities not purchased pursuant to the cash tender offer.

To the extent that eligible subordinated liabilities are not acquired pursuant to the liability management exercise or redeemed pursuant to the exercise of the call options under the amended terms of the subordinated liabilities, IL&P understands that the Government will take whatever steps it considers necessary to maximise burden sharing.

IL&P intends to launch this liability management exercise in the near future.

Separately, on 17 May 2011 IL&P prepaid three upper tier 2 perpetual subordinated loans made to IL&P in an original aggregate nominal amount of approximately €318 million, which generated €290m of core equity tier 1 capital.

Both of these liability management exercises will strengthen the quality of IL&P's capital base and will contribute to meeting IL&P's obligation to raise €4 billion of core tier 1 capital to satisfy the regulatory capital requirements of the Central Bank of Ireland.

The liability management exercise is expected to be subject to restrictions in certain jurisdictions, including in Ireland, Italy, the United Kingdom, France and Belgium. The jurisdictional restrictions that will apply, together with the full terms of the liability management exercise, will be contained in an offer memorandum that will be available as and when the exercise is launched.

Contact details:
Investor Relations
Shane O’Sullivan, Head of Debt IR: Tel: +353 1 2462476
Barry Bowden, Head of A&L Management: Tel: +353 1 2462478
Barry Walsh, Head of Investor Relations: Tel: +353 1 704 2678
 
Media
Ray Gordon, Gordon MRM: Tel: +353 1 665 0450

das so umsetzen, dann sind erhebliche Beträge für die benötigte Kapitalerhöhung bereits erbracht. Schon jetzt kann man gespannt sein, wie sich damit die Gewinne im 3. und 4. Quartal 2011 entwickeln.
Jetzt beginnt die Zeit des Wachstums - In 2 Jahren die Zeit der Ernte.

erzähl mir mehr... hör jetzt nicht auf....

ja recht habe ich gehabt!

also die news ist doch positiv!

jetzt in 20 minuten fliegen wir gegen norden!

viele groß Investoren bearbeiten die news und ist die frage der zeit wann die mega order zum kauf platziert werden!

 

Unterstützung der bestehenden Aktionäre? wie sieht das genau aus?

"In addition to the proposed liability management exercise, the Bank, as outlined in its Interim Management Statement of 19 May 2011, continues to work actively with its advisors on a range of initiatives with a view to meeting the equity capital requirement arising from the 2011 PCAR process through a combination of support from existing shareholders (including the State) and other sources."

Noch bis vor einigen Wochen zahlten BOI / AIB / ILP an die irische Notenbank 3%.
Inzwischen hat die EZB die Beleihung auf Basis der US Rating Firmen ausgesetzt. Damit können sich die irischen Banken jetzt - wie die anderen EU Banken auch - direkt bei der EZB zum erheblich günstigeren Zins refinanzieren. Die Basis ist damit gelegt.
Das Risiko ist allerdings immer noch Griechenland und die US Verschuldungsobergrenze.

Was passiert mit bestehnden Aktionäre?
Sollte ich jetzt nachlegen oder warten.  Wie viel  Geld sollte ich auf die Seite legen um die KE voll mitzugehen ?

"Das Risiko ist allerdings immer noch Griechenland und die US Verschuldungsobergrenze."

Wobei laut neusten Meldungen Griechenland nun doch noch einmal Kredite bekommt. Damit wäre eine Umschuldung oder Austritt eher unwahrscheinlich - siehe DAX - dort wird die Meldung positiv aufgenommen.

Und das Schuldenlimit in den USA wird mit Sicherheit angehoben werden.

BoI, IL&P plan to burn junior debt holders

www.rte.ie/news/2011/0531/banks-business.html

warum gehts dann so runter bei so hohen volumen

weil es alles verkeüfe sind-man man man

Das muß jeder selbst entscheiden.
Für mich gilt : Ich kaufte / ich kaufe / ich werde kaufen.

Allerdings werde ich auch wieder verkaufen, wenn die Leerverkäufer gut zahlen oder sich die Situation ändert.

Geldkurs: 0,156 EUR
Geldvolumen: 1,04 Mio. Stk.

Briefkurs: 0,165 EUR
Briefvolumen: 65.300 Stk.

Das scheint sich in London und Dublin noch nicht rumgesprochen zu haben.
Hab eher Sorge das die Amis noch ne Schippe drauflegen und wir die 0,16 noch durchbrechen. Bin satt im Minus, aber so satt- werd wohl nochmal zukaufen.
Glaube das Alpha recht hat, denn der Staat hat ja auch schon daran gedacht, ein paar Türchen für ein lukratives Exit in 2 Jahren aufzuschließen.
....Higher liquidity also gives the state more scope for lucrative exit strategies, including sales of large stakes to strategic investors, if Bank of Ireland returns to profitability...


www.sbpost.ie/themarket/...of-boi-to-remain-private-56532.html