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Hallo,
also Spende ist erledigt !! Das schlimme an den Spenden über PayPal ist ja nur das an jeder Spende JPM mitverdient (denen ja PayPal wohl gehört), alleine schon durch den Umrechnungskurs €/$
Gruß
dogfight76
messages.finance.yahoo.com/...=-1&rt=1&frt=2&off=1
Page 101/139 of the Prospectus
"In the event of a voluntary or involuntary dissolution of the Company, after all the Company's debts and liabilities have been satisfied.."(including Prefs--TPS) "the holders of the company common securities will be entitled to share equally and ratably in any assets remaining"
page 39/139--
"WMI, through its subsidiary, New American Capital, Inc., is the ultimate owner of WMB's AND University Street's common stock."
This is somewhere between 1.4 and 9 Billion in excess.
sprich:
bei beabsichtigter ODER unbeabsichtigter auflösung des unternehmens und nachdem die bestehenden verpflichtungen (schulden) bedient sind (inkl. prefs--TPS) geht der rest des geldes an die commons
offenbar sprechen wir hier von 1.4 bis 9 mrd$
gemäss posting ist dieser passus so im prospectus (beschreibung der securities) drin
linke auf den prospectus habe ich leider nicht
anyone?
so looong
/paketix
bitte ergänzend zu deinem Beitrag diese Diskussion lesen.
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/...p;mid=539699&tof=4&frt=2
Gruß Homer J
Also es wurde doch gesagt, dass man bei 30mrd mit 6dollar pro share rechnen kann
Nach dem momentanen Status von 1,4 -9 mrd ist also mit zwischen 1,8dollar und 0,27dollar für die commons zu rechnen?
Hier eine 100 %ige Parallele :
http://unzensiertinformiert.de/2010/07/...nclique-die-macht-ubernahm/
Vererbt sich so etwas ?
Washington Mutual Inc., the former owner of the biggest U.S. bank to fail, must face a trial over who owns $4 billion in low-ranking debt known as trust-preferred securities before it can end its bankruptcy.
U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Mary Walrath in Wilmington, Del., scheduled a trial of the investor lawsuit for Nov. 1, the first day of a confirmation hearing on WaMu's reorganization proposal.
Lawyers for WaMu and investors, including Black Horse Capital and Lonestar Partners, agree the issue must be resolved before the company can end its bankruptcy and distribute more than $6 billion to creditors.
As the confirmation hearing continues in early November, other critics of WaMu's plan may want to use any facts or arguments presented by the investors to attack the reorganization proposal, Walrath said. Shareholders claim that the holding company's bank should never have been seized by regulators and sold to JPMorgan Chase & Co. in 2008.
"Others may want to ride your coattails," Walrath told an attorney for Black Horse. "The first day of confirmation will be yours."
Last month a group of investors sued WaMu and JPMorgan over the way the trust-preferred securities were converted from debtlike investments into equity. The investors, who bought $1 billion of the trust-preferred securities, got preferred equity in WaMu when the exchange happened just before WaMu collapsed.
When affiliates of WaMu raised $4 billion by selling the securities, the bank was "engaged and/or involved in rampant fraud, misrepresentation and/or reckless business practices," investors said in a complaint filed July 6 in Delaware. JPMorgan knew about WaMu's problems, the investors claim.
The securities were backed by $13.5 billion in home equity and home-mortgage loans. The securities, and the assets backing them, were acquired by JPMorgan when it bought WaMu's bank for $1.9 billion, according to court records.
The investors claim that the securities should have been retained by WaMu. They want Walrath to void the conditional exchange and give the securities to them.
The investors will have a hard time winning because the securities were designed to rank below nearly all of WaMu's other debts, Kevin Starke, senior analyst with CRT Capital Group said. That means the investors shouldn't be able to collect money before other, more senior creditors, he said.
The securities are part of a settlement among WaMu, JPMorgan and federal regulators. Last month Walrath appointed an examiner to investigate that settlement as well as the strength of a potential lawsuit against JPMorgan and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. for their roles in the collapse of WaMu's bank.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/..._wamu25.html?syndication=rss
Gruß
Dude44
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