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wieder auf Tagestief geschlossen! Ich weiß nicht warum, aber ich lasse mich in letzter Zeit von diesen "billigen Kursen" gerne reizen....Nach dem Motto Geiz ist Geil! Ich muss euch etwas gestehen: ICH BIN HIER MIT MEINEM GANZEN HAB UND GUT DICK UND FETT INVESTIERT! UND SETZE MORGEN NOCH EINEN DRAUF!
Macht euch keine Sorgen um mich! Ich habe gelernt, ohne Geld zu leben! Bzw. brauche ich für meinen Lebensstandard so gut wie kein Geld. Und auch in Zukunft bin ich nicht auf das Geld angewiesen, was ich in Wamu stecke. klingt komisch oder? In meinem Leben gibt es viel zu viele schönere Sachen, als Geld. Und dafür bin ich sehr Dankbar :-)
Dennoch habe ich 1 und 1 zusammengezählt und komme zu dem Entschluss: Hier werden wir noch sehr viel Geld sehen, welches das Leben versüßen könnte!
Macht euch keine Sorgen um mich! Ich habe gelernt, ohne Geld zu leben! Bzw. brauche ich für meinen Lebensstandard so gut wie kein Geld. Und auch in Zukunft bin ich nicht auf das Geld angewiesen, was ich in Wamu stecke. klingt komisch oder? In meinem Leben gibt es viel zu viele schönere Sachen, als Geld. Und dafür bin ich sehr Dankbar :-)
Dennoch habe ich 1 und 1 zusammengezählt und komme zu dem Entschluss: Hier werden wir noch sehr viel Geld sehen, welches das Leben versüßen könnte!
Willkommen in Wamu-City
Wird wohl noch neine Weile "tumbleweed" geben, bis wieder was passiert. Aber wie im Western wirds auch hier irgendwann krachen ;-))
Gruß, Kryo
Wird wohl noch neine Weile "tumbleweed" geben, bis wieder was passiert. Aber wie im Western wirds auch hier irgendwann krachen ;-))
Gruß, Kryo
(Verkleinert auf 39%) 
Sehr schöner Artikel über JPM und wie sie verheimlichen das ihre Bilanz eigentlich ganz schön mies aussieht. Ein Grund warum man von überall her Kapital benötigt, wie man sieht bedient man sich auch anscheined illegaler Methoden. Hier ein Beispiel:
Our Biggest Financial Firms Don't Scam1. In mid-2006, Bear Stearns induced investors to purchase, and Ambac as a financial guarantor to insure, securities that were backed by a pool of mortgage loans that in the words of the Bear Stearns deal manager was a SACK OF SHIT.1 Within the walls of its sparkling new office tower, Bear Stearns executives knew this derogatory and distasteful characterization aptly described the transaction. Indeed, Bear Stearns had deliberately and secretly altered its policies and neglected its controls to increase the volume of mortgage loans available for its securitizations made in patent disregard for the borrowers ability to repay those loans. After the market collapse exposed its scheme to sell defective loans to investors through these transactions, JP Morgan executives assumed control over Bear Stearns and implemented an across-the-board strategy to improperly bar EMC from honoring its contractual promises to disclose and repurchase defective loans through a series of deceptive practices. In what amounts to accounting fraud, JP Morgans bad-faith strategy was designed to avoid and has avoided recognition of the vast off-balance sheet exposure relating to its contractual repurchase obligations thereby enabling JPMorgan Chase & Co. to manipulate its accounting reserves and allowing its senior executives to continue to reap tens of millions of dollars in compensation following the taxpayer-financed acquisition of Bear Stearns.
Oh, maybe they did.
At least that's what the lawsuit claims.
It's especially nice when you make crap loans and then short the companies you intentionally lay off the bad paper on, knowing they'll blow up in advance. And that's alleged too:
24. Knowing that its fraudulent and breaching conduct was resulting and would continue to result in grave harm to Ambac, Bear Stearns then implemented a trading strategy to profit from Ambacs potential demise by shorting banks with large exposure to Ambac-insured securities. (The shorts were bets the banks shares or holdings would decrease in value as Ambac incurred additional harm.) In late 2007, Bear, Stearns & Co. Senior Managing Director Jeffrey Verschleiser boasted that (a)t the end of October, while presenting to the risk committee on our business I told them that a few financial guarantors were vulnerable to potential write downs in the CDO and MBS market and we should be short a multiple of 10 of the shorts I had put on . . .
In less than three weeks we made approximately $55 million on just these two trades.31 Bolstered by this success, Bear Stearns carried this trading strategy into 2008. On February 17, 2008, a Bear Stearns trader told colleagues and Verschleiser, I am positive fgic is done and ambac is not far behind.32
Nice.
But wait, as Billy Mayes used to say, there's more!
JP Morgan caused EMC to reject legitimate repurchase demands by Ambac, as well as other financial guaranty insurers, to understate materially the accounting reserves JPMorgan Chase & Co. was required to accrue and disclose in its financial statements to reflect the liability inherited from EMC for repurchase obligations associated with defective loans. JP Morgan thus interfered with EMCs contractual obligations to Ambac (and other insurers) to assist its parent corporation, JP Morgan Chase, effectuate a massive accounting fraud. JP Morgan interfered fraudulently, and deceptively represented to Ambac that the rejections of Ambacs repurchase demands were based on the reasons set forth in the written responses to the demands. In fact, JP Morgan itself had concluded, and knew that EMC and Bear Stearns & Co. (prior to JP Morgan taking control of Bear Stearns & Co.) previously had concluded, that the bases for the repurchase demands for a substantial portion of challenged loans were well founded. Indeed, in a number of instances, EMC had made repurchase demands on the originators of the loans for the very same reason(s) Ambac cited in support of its repurchase demands to EMC.
But I thought Jamie Dimon has repeatedly told us that JP Morgan was a very ethical company, and never did anything wrong? Ambac disagrees.
27. Moreover, even while refusing to repurchase breaching loans that Ambac identified and requested, the same JP Morgan executive implemented a policy of demanding that suppliers repurchase from EMC the same loans, for the same reasons that Ambac and other financial guarantors had requested EMC to repurchase.36 JP Morgan rebuffed Ambacs repurchase requests even where Bear Stearns had previously demanded that originators repurchase the exact same loans because the same or similar defects subsequently identified by Ambac.37 The duplicitous and deceptive conduct is patent and the motivation clear: JP Morgan adopted a strategy to deliberately and systematically deny the financial guarantors legitimate repurchase demands to avoid JPMorgan Chase & Co. from bringing onto its financial statements the massive off-balance sheet exposure and, in doing so, effectively engaged in accounting fraud.
You know all those off-balance sheet games that I have been screaming about for four years now? The same sort of games that took Enron down the toilet, and which you can find in virtually every major financial institution in The United States in one form or another?
Yes, those.
We still allow this to be done in the United States..... why?
After conducting the initial review noted above, Ambac reviewed a random sample of 1,482 loans, with an aggregate principal balance of approximately $88.2 million, selected across all four Transactions. The results of that review are remarkable. Of these 1,482 loans, 1,351, or over 91%, breached one or more of the representations and warranties that EMC had made to Ambac.
91% of the Chocolates in the box are really used dog food, but nobody has gone to jail for selling adulterated boxes of Chocolate.
WHY?
Full complaint below, and again: Where are the damned handcuffs?
Komplett unter www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticlepaged/...id/4925053/pageid/1
www.istockanalyst.com/finance/story/4925053/...ncial-firms-don-t-scam
investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=60417943
Zitat Large Green:
In doubt? Look at the actions-WMI becoming defensive-EC VERY quiet!
For all of those people who are posting and worried about the EC and Susman, all I can say is look at the actions and then relax. I suggest for those in doubt go back and do more due diligence on Susman and his history at winning-he does not lose. More importantly is HOW Susman’s team wins. He tells you EXACTLY what and how he goes about it in his website and many of those I do not believe but Susman has an incredible record to back up his boasting.
This law firm does incredible due diligence, gathers the facts, lays out his plan and stays out of the limelight to the point of many people wondering if he is actually doing anything. Just remember we have been through all of this before with Susman and when there is a due date for something, he makes his filing which to date has been nothing short of incredible. For those of you who are concerned he is not addressing financials, assets, illegal transfers and more, there are VERY good reasons for it. First of all why would he address it in parts and give his enemy an advantage? We have all seen PJS has been billing for over fourteen months and working on many items. When Susman began, he made it clear he had to concentrate on one item and that was getting the POR denied and he did. He has a filing to make on or before 3/9/2011 and I suggest something very positive happens to equity on or before that date.
Susman’s strategy is of surprise and ambush as I have done my due diligence on he and his firm. I have a large investment in this and I have accumulated at every stage for two and half years and I continue to do so. When the time is right and we are getting VERY close he will unload SOME of his artillery and IMHO that will start on 3/9/2011 with his filing against the Disclosure Statement and AGAIN every long will be impressed. Now as for Susman not addressing these items such as missing assets and more, that will be his TRUMP card, providing he has to use it. Susman/PJS WILL have an itemized list of assets leading up to 9/25/2008 and a list after this date and it will be backed up and signed by PJS depicting everything that WMI should have after 9/25/2008 and it will be EXPLOSIVE! Everybody should be happy Susman has held his TRUMP card because if and when he has to show it, there will be NO DSPUTING it from the criminals. I will go as far as to say Susman will show PART of his hand in chambers before showing the world to give the criminals one last chance and this is when the offer will be made IMHO. Stand down, have some more patience and get ready to celebrate because IT IS COMING!!!
Zitatende
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MfG.L:)
Zitat Large Green:
In doubt? Look at the actions-WMI becoming defensive-EC VERY quiet!
For all of those people who are posting and worried about the EC and Susman, all I can say is look at the actions and then relax. I suggest for those in doubt go back and do more due diligence on Susman and his history at winning-he does not lose. More importantly is HOW Susman’s team wins. He tells you EXACTLY what and how he goes about it in his website and many of those I do not believe but Susman has an incredible record to back up his boasting.
This law firm does incredible due diligence, gathers the facts, lays out his plan and stays out of the limelight to the point of many people wondering if he is actually doing anything. Just remember we have been through all of this before with Susman and when there is a due date for something, he makes his filing which to date has been nothing short of incredible. For those of you who are concerned he is not addressing financials, assets, illegal transfers and more, there are VERY good reasons for it. First of all why would he address it in parts and give his enemy an advantage? We have all seen PJS has been billing for over fourteen months and working on many items. When Susman began, he made it clear he had to concentrate on one item and that was getting the POR denied and he did. He has a filing to make on or before 3/9/2011 and I suggest something very positive happens to equity on or before that date.
Susman’s strategy is of surprise and ambush as I have done my due diligence on he and his firm. I have a large investment in this and I have accumulated at every stage for two and half years and I continue to do so. When the time is right and we are getting VERY close he will unload SOME of his artillery and IMHO that will start on 3/9/2011 with his filing against the Disclosure Statement and AGAIN every long will be impressed. Now as for Susman not addressing these items such as missing assets and more, that will be his TRUMP card, providing he has to use it. Susman/PJS WILL have an itemized list of assets leading up to 9/25/2008 and a list after this date and it will be backed up and signed by PJS depicting everything that WMI should have after 9/25/2008 and it will be EXPLOSIVE! Everybody should be happy Susman has held his TRUMP card because if and when he has to show it, there will be NO DSPUTING it from the criminals. I will go as far as to say Susman will show PART of his hand in chambers before showing the world to give the criminals one last chance and this is when the offer will be made IMHO. Stand down, have some more patience and get ready to celebrate because IT IS COMING!!!
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MfG.L:)
"Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJqM2tFOxLQ&feature=relmfu
Wenn Betrug,lug,Diebstahl im Spiel ist oder Geld mit Krieg ,Nepp ,Abzocke an Börsen und realen Werten im Spiel ist sind Jpm ,Goldman nicht weit die Brut der Fed und Fdic!
Die Sippenmafia seit 1913 auf das es keiner vergesse was hier abgeht unter dem Deckmantel der Verbrecher /Weltdiebe
Certification of Counsel Regarding Order Governing the Production and Use of Confidential
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110228000000000003.pdf
Verified Statement of Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP Pursuant to Rule 2019 of the Federal Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110228000000000004.pdf
Debtors' Response to the Letter of Joe Schorp Requesting Information Regarding Second and Union LLC
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110228000000000005.pdf
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110228000000000003.pdf
Verified Statement of Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP Pursuant to Rule 2019 of the Federal Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110228000000000004.pdf
Debtors' Response to the Letter of Joe Schorp Requesting Information Regarding Second and Union LLC
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110228000000000005.pdf
schade dass es hier den Punkt "gefällt mir" nicht gibt!!!
Wenn bis zum 01.04.2011 der Kurs bei 0,04€ bleibt. werde ich 1Mio. Stück nachkaufen...das hab ich mir versprochen!!
Habe keine einzige wamuq verkauft....warum?-es wird gut enden!!!!
Quelle: aktientempel.de
Bezug: www.nasdaq.com/aspx/...o-45-billion-in-additional-legal-losses
The banks all face a rash of lawsuits regarding the financial crisis and collapse of the housing market, particularly from investors who purchased mortgage-backed securities that later tumbled in value.
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D.h JPMC ist sich wohl der drohenden Niederlage bewusst. Ansonsten würde sie diese Zahlen nicht wie oben in der News erwähnt nicht publik machen ("number it doesn't make public")
Die Frage ist wieviel Prozent der 4,5 Billionen von den Leuten kommen "who purchased mortgage-backed securities". Aber kann da JPMC wirklich so haftbar dafür gemacht werden ?
Die Investition ist für die Mortgage-backed securities Käufer einfach nicht aufgegangen, das tut mir zwar leid für die Investoren die das als vermeindlich sicher ansahen, aber so ist das leider in der Finanzwelt.
Uns wird auch keiner eine Träne nachweinen wenn wir wirklich ausgebucht werden sollten, was ich mir nicht vorstellen kann.
By the way ist der Satz allgemein gehalten. Es wird gesagt "All banks..." Alle Banken haben mit Prozessen zu kämpfen und davon ist ein großteil von Mortgage-backed securites Käufern. Aber JPMC ist nicht "alle", JPMC ist sogar die einzige Bank die den WaMu-Deal abgeschlossen hat.
Evtl. eine gute Nachricht die uns so in etwa angibt mit was wir momentan rechnen können.
Könnte der großteil der 4,5 Billionen USD für unserer WaMu sein?
Würden 4,5 Billionen USD für die Commons reichen ? Wenn ja, mit welchem Wert können wir in etwa rechnen ?
signatur? ne! keine Kaufempfehlung :)
....hat das denn überhaupt was mit WAMU/WMI/WMBfsb usw. zu tun..........
Kleine Korrektur meinerseits:
wenn dann sind es 4,5 Milliarden. Die Amis meinen mit billions nicht unsere Billionen.
Es würde für die Commons im normalen Waterfall nicht reichen. Da die Prefs noch etwa 500 Millionen "aus dem Geld sind" würden dann noch etwa 4 Mrd auf diese entfallen. Damit die Commons aber etwas abbekommen sind weitere 3,5 Mrd notwendig. Das Equity wäre damit aber in einer besseren Situation, da alles was im Wasserfall davor liegt bedient wäre und nix mehr zu melden hat. Was dann weitere Kompetenzen, auch bezüglich des BODs angeht können dies hier andere besser erläutern.
wenn dann sind es 4,5 Milliarden. Die Amis meinen mit billions nicht unsere Billionen.
Es würde für die Commons im normalen Waterfall nicht reichen. Da die Prefs noch etwa 500 Millionen "aus dem Geld sind" würden dann noch etwa 4 Mrd auf diese entfallen. Damit die Commons aber etwas abbekommen sind weitere 3,5 Mrd notwendig. Das Equity wäre damit aber in einer besseren Situation, da alles was im Wasserfall davor liegt bedient wäre und nix mehr zu melden hat. Was dann weitere Kompetenzen, auch bezüglich des BODs angeht können dies hier andere besser erläutern.
Möge der große Frosch mit Euch sein!
Ceterum censeo Pfandi et Delfi ex turmae expellendos esse!!
Ceterum censeo Pfandi et Delfi ex turmae expellendos esse!!
Twenty-Eighth Monthly Application of Richards, Layton & Finger, P.A. for Allowance of Compensation for Services Rendered and for Reimbursement of Expenses as Counsel to the Debtors and Debtors-in-Possession for the Period from January 1, 2011 to January 31, 2011
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110228000000000006.pdf
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110228000000000006.pdf
ich persönlich glaube, daß dies mit WAMU nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat:
nachrichten.finanztreff.de/...2917904,sektion,unternehmen.html
nachrichten.finanztreff.de/...2917904,sektion,unternehmen.html
Jetzt dümpeln wir schon seid Wochen bei diesen Kursen und es ist noch nicht mal Land in Sicht.Wann begreift die Richterin endlich mal ,dass es so nicht weiter gehen kann.Diese ganze verschieberei geht mir richtig auf die Nüsse.Es ist mir auch völlig egal ,ob wir nun 1 Euro oder 10 Euro pro Share bekommen ,hauptsache das Drama findet bald ein Ende.Wenn ich mir die letzten Monate so anschaue ,haben ja einige sich so viel Mühe gemacht Fakten auszuarbeiten und zu analysieren ,aber nichts von alledem ist tatsächlich passiert.Wir werden hier noch in 10 Jahren sitzen ,wenn nicht mal ein Wunder geschieht.Ich hätte mein Geld doch lieber verbrennen sollen ,dann wäre es wenigstens warm in der Bude.
hier wieder ein Brief eines Ihub - lers an Mary.
This letter was mailed earlier today. Formatting is messed up here but looks right on paper.
Dear Honorable Judge Mary Walrath:
I am a stockholder in Washington Mutual Incorporated and have a concern that I wanted to bring to the courts attention.
I have no legal background which may explain why I am confused. Dictionary.com defines the word fair as “free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice: a fair decision; a fair judge. “ and the word reasonable is defined as “agreeable to reason or sound judgment; logical: a reasonable choice for chairman. “
Previously as I understand it you made a statement based on the information that you had that the GSA met the requirements that it was fair and reasonable. I humbly ask that you reconsider that decision based on the information in Docket #6805 filed 2/25/2001 by the Debtors Washington Mutual INC. Specify item 18 on page 8 where it is admitted that “18. EY LLP's services are necessary and will substantially enhance the Debtors' efforts to comply with governing accounting and reporting requirements. During the course of their chapter 11 cases, the Debtors did not employ or retain any accounting or auditing firms.” (bolding and underlining mine)
If there has been no auditing done how can any of the statements made regarding the value of the estate bee accurate? It is extremely possible that with a full and complete valuation performed the facts could show that the estate’s assets are greater than our liabilities and that a graceful exit from bankruptcy can be made without causing any class of shareholder to cancelled.
I would appreciate it if the court put any further discussion of restructuring the company, sale of the assets or any other action that could impair equity until EY is able to do a full and complete audit of WMI and their subsidiaries and a list is provided of what JP Morgan Chase obtained in their purchase offer. I believe that would be fair and reasonable to both estate creditors and equity.
Sincerely,
investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=60426033
lt. WMI-Kalender @ www.world-of-stocks.com/individual_values/wamuq
01.03: Deadline for amending DimeQ pleadings
09.03: Proposed: objections due to Supplemental Disclosure Statement, 4:00 p.m Omnibus hearing, 9:30 AM (Del). On the agenda: - Reconsideration of the Opinion DENYING Confirmation of Sixth Amended Plan of Reorganization (Sydney Prevor; #6558)
11.03: Changed to March 9 {Omnibus hearing, 11:30 AM (Del)}
16.03: Proposed: general record date for voting on amended POR
18.03: Deadline for discovery requests and request for production of documents regarding DimeQ
21.03: Proposed: Hearing on supplemental Disclosure Statement, 10:30 AM (Del).
25.03: Proposed: approx. solicitation date for amended POR
*tsss*
na DAS ist mal wieder ne aussage
WAMUUUUH braucht geduld leute - und es ist *nicht* alles grün heute
das ist es an *keinem* börsentag
so looong
/paketix
na DAS ist mal wieder ne aussage
WAMUUUUH braucht geduld leute - und es ist *nicht* alles grün heute
das ist es an *keinem* börsentag
so looong
/paketix
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