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Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Rassi
Rassi:

Hallo

 
17.05.11 19:50

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Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Biotechspezialx
Biotechspezia.:

War da nicht was?

 
17.05.11 23:56
Ist Morgen nicht Hauptversammlung???
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Rassi
Rassi:

Hi

 
18.05.11 09:27

genau heute ist Versammlung,vielleicht kommt einwenig Optimismus hier rein

Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Biotechspezialx
Biotechspezia.:

Denke das sich heute was tut-

 
18.05.11 09:43
Wednesday 18(th) May 2011

7.00am

Irish Life & Permanent Group Holdings plc (IL&PGH) issues the following update on the group's business. A conference call for analysts will be hosted by management at 9.00am today, the details of which are set out at the end of this statement.

The Group's Annual General Meeting takes place today at 11.30am in the RDS in Dublin.

Group Overview

While we believe the worst of the recession appears to be over in Ireland, the recovery in 2011 is expected to be modest with continued weakness in domestic demand and consumer sentiment being partially offset by a strong export sector performance. Residential property prices continue to decline. Although the unemployment rate is showing signs of stabilising, employment is expected to continue to fall in 2011.

The life and investment management businesses are performing broadly in line with expectations although the impact of budgetary changes on customers' disposable incomes has contributed to weaker persistency experience in the Retail Life business. The acquisition of the INBS deposit balances in February has been positive for the Group's banking business but funding conditions continue to be challenging. Arrears on the bank's Irish residential book continue to increase while new mortgage demand has been very subdued year to date.

During the period, the PCAR / PLAR exercises were completed by the Central Bank of Ireland and the results announced in March, which determined an additional EUR4.0bn capital requirement for the Group.

Life assurance & fund management

New business

Overall sales (annual premium equivalent basis) of life assurance and investment products YTD are running 20% ahead of the corresponding period in 2010 and broadly in line with expectations. ILIM continues to record strong institutional inflows and the life business is seeing strong growth in single premium sales - up 20% (excluding Irish Life International) - but recurring premiums were down 21%. Retail sales are in line with target and ahead of April 2010 levels. Corporate sales are behind expectations because of lower bulk annuity activity as schemes wait for new minimum funding standards rules.

In-force

Risk and expense experience for the first quarter of the year has been in line with expectations. Persistency experience in the Corporate life division was also in line with expectations following the changes made to lapse assumptions in the Corporate life division at the end of 2010. However, lapse experience in the Retail life division in the first quarter of 2011 was ten percentage points ahead of Q1 2010 experience reflecting reduced household incomes and continuing weak business conditions in the domestic economy.

Life costs

Operating costs are running in-line with budget in the life assurance and fund management businesses. A further cost reduction programme is underway in 2011.

Pension levy

The Government announced this month its intention to apply a pension levy of 0.6% on private pension funds and it is expected to raise c. EUR1.9bn over a four year period.

Capital

As part of its capital management, the life company has repaid the loan of EUR100m secured on its in-force book, which it had raised and drawn down in 2010. A dividend of EUR143m will be paid by the life company (Irish Life Assurance plc) to the bank in May 2011.

Banking

Funding

The bank continues to focus on developing its retail deposit base. Retail deposits were c. EUR13.3bn at the end of April (Dec 2010: EUR11.1bn), the increase reflects the addition of the Irish Nationwide Building Society (INBS) deposit book in February 2011. However, as expected there has been some attrition on the business transferred (circa EUR0.3bn) year to date. Existing permanent tsb retail deposit book balances have otherwise been broadly stable in a very competitive market while current account balances have declined slightly.

PTSB's corporate deposits were EUR3.3bn at the end of April, including the INBS corporate deposits acquired in February 2011. These deposit levels reflect outflows following further sovereign and bank ratings downgrades this year (Dec 2010: EUR3.7bn). As at 30 April 2011 the Group remains unable to access the term debt markets and permanent tsb had ECB drawings of EUR13.1bn (Dec 2010: EUR13.8bn).

Net interest income

Net interest income is broadly in-line with 2010 year to date. The net interest margin before guarantee costs is currently running slightly ahead of the 2010 level (FY 2010: 86bps). Given the funding mix and the application of higher ELG charges, the government guarantee costs in 2011 are running significantly ahead of the prior year.

Lending

Lending demand in permanent tsb's home mortgages and consumer finance continues to be extremely weak and new advances for Q1 were approximately 40% lower than in Q1 2010.

Credit quality

Arrears in the Irish residential and commercial mortgage books continue to rise in 2011. The Irish residential mortgage arrears cases (over 90 days) increased by 17% to 13,500 at the end of April. Early arrears (under 90 days) cases have risen from 4,800 cases at Dec 2010 to just over 5,000 cases at end April 2011.

Consumer finance arrears are stable and our UK mortgage book continues to trend downwards, comparing favourably at end March 2011 (1.94%) to the industry CML +3 month arrears cases (2.44%).
Loan impairment provisions

Based on trends to date and current assumptions, loan impairment provisions are expected to be broadly in-line with the 2010 level (FY 2010 actual EUR420m). As outlined in our March PCAR / PLAR presentation, the total impairments over the next 3 years based on the PCAR base case scenario will be EUR1.2bn, of which circa EUR620m would occur in the full year 2011.

Bank costs

Total costs, excluding restructuring costs, are running in line with expectations. A further phase of restructuring is being undertaken in relation to both the acquired INBS business and the existing PTSB banking operations.

Capital

The Central Bank of Ireland completed its PCAR / PLAR review of the bank in March 2011. This exercise determined a gross capital requirement of some EUR4.0bn for the Group in order to meet the requirements of (i) a target core equity Tier 1 capital ratio of 6% in a stress case scenario and (ii) de-leveraging the bank's balance sheet in order to achieve a Loan to Deposit Ratio of approximately 122% by December 2013.

The Group intends to meet its increased capital requirement through an asset disposal programme, undertaking a liability management exercise in relation to its Tier 2 debt and through the issue of additional capital to the Irish State.

Work has commenced on the first steps of the de-leveraging plans in relation to the bank's UK residential loan book and Irish commercial book.

The first phase of the liability management exercise commenced in the last week with EUR320m of upper Tier 2 debt bought back in a bilateral transaction generating over EUR290m of Tier 1 equity.

Preparation work for the restructuring of the Group is ongoing and a further update will be provided in due course.

(Full details and results for the Group of the PCAR / PLAR review that was announced on 31 March can be found on our website at: www.irishlifepermanent.ie/...or-relations/financial-analysis/p car-plar-results.aspx).

The Group's Interim results announcement date is scheduled for 31(st) August 2011.
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Rassi
Rassi:

Guten Morgen

 
18.05.11 09:50
ich glaube auch das sich etwas tut, zumindest sind die Ansagen recht zu versichtlich
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Biotechspezialx
Biotechspezia.:

Könnte heute einiges passieren-

 
18.05.11 09:57
Die müssen heute Rede und Antwort stehen-

The Group's Annual General Meeting takes place today at 11.30am in the RDS in Dublin.
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? thowe
thowe:

Hmmm......

 
18.05.11 10:01
Schade ist nur, dass sich im Vorfeld nichts am Kurs tut. Normalerweise sickert doch meist was durch.....
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? ipson
ipson:

...moin moin, wird auch langsam mal Zeit

 
18.05.11 10:24
für ein wenig Kursbewegung in die richtige Richtung!
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Biotechspezialx
Biotechspezia.:

Starke käufe in London haben eingesetzt-

 
18.05.11 11:12
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Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? j3richo
j3richo:

Nachkauf?

 
18.05.11 11:13
Für den Kurs könnte man ja eigentlich nachlegen...
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Biotechspezialx
Biotechspezia.:

Noch 15 Min-

 
18.05.11 11:23
So wird spannend Hauptversammlung beginnt in 15 Min.
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Biotechspezialx
Biotechspezia.:

2 x 100 K Blöcke in Stuttgart gekauft worden-

 
18.05.11 11:29
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Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? thowe
thowe:

In Betracht der Käufe.....

 
18.05.11 12:50
scheint der Kurs noch nicht so recht anzuspringen.
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? j3richo
j3richo:

HV?

 
18.05.11 15:56
War die nun schon?
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Rassi
Rassi:

Hi

 
18.05.11 16:05
die läuft den ganzen Tag, schau bei den mal auf die HP
Gruß
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? thowe
thowe:

ILPs AGM fails to adjourn

 
18.05.11 19:32
Habe ich das richtig verstanden, dass die HV vertagt wurde?
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Rassi
Rassi:

@

 
18.05.11 19:39

Wo steht denn das?? Auf der HP?

Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? thowe
thowe:

nein .... mir macht nur

 
18.05.11 20:05
der Artikel "insideireland.ie/2011/05/18/ilps-agm-fails-to-adjourn-18348/" etwas stutzig bzw. dessen Überschrift: "AGM fails to adjourn"?!?
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? j3richo
j3richo:

Das hier?

 
18.05.11 20:07

insideireland.ie/2011/05/18/ilps-agm-fails-to-adjourn-18348/  There were angry exchanges at today’s Irish Life & Permanent (IL&P) AGM after a group of shareholders failed to have the meeting adjourned over unease about the Board’s commitment to raise €4bn.  Earlier, one shareholder proposed the company’s AGM should be adjourned until the entirety of the group’s board members confirmed they would stand behind the group’s intention to raise €4bn in new capital.  

Liest sich gut! Klasse, dass man sich nicht alles gefallen lässt. Dahinter steckt wahrscheinlich der hier: www.ilpshareholders.com/  

Ist der letzte Absatz nicht schon ein Zugeständnis, dass gar keine 4Mrd.€ benötigt werden? "The chairman also said he expected the group to rely on the Government for capital support of up to €2.5bn."

Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? Biotechspezialx
Biotechspezia.:

Großeinkauf zum Schluß in London

 
18.05.11 20:33
HV wurde vertagt und alles sieht nicht schlecht aus-


Zum Handels Ende in London  Großeinkauf noch mal.

17:35:23 0,125 180.000 stück
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? j3richo
j3richo:

da steckt bestimmt der buffet

 
18.05.11 20:35
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? thowe
thowe:

wie ich vermutet hatte ... also doch vertagt ;-)

 
18.05.11 20:54
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? baranyka
baranyka:

leider

 
18.05.11 21:03
bei den amis im minus
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? neureich13
neureich13:

Sieht nicht gut aus

 
19.05.11 10:19
www.independent.ie/business/irish/...usiness-life-2651370.html

Shareholders learn harsh rules of business life

By Thomas Molloy

Thursday May 19 2011

IT'S difficult not to feel some sympathy for IL&P's shareholders, who have seen shares slump from close to a euro just two months ago to 12.5 cents yesterday.

The company looked like it had a real future because it lent to ordinary people rather than developers and because it owns a profitable life assurance arm that protects people's savings and livelihoods.

The shares had been sliding slowly over the past two years but finally tanked in March when the State-inspired stress tests conducted by BlackRock called on Irish Life to raise €4bn -- or 16 times more than the Central Bank's previous stress test in September.

Whether this is too much remains to be seen, but it effectively ended any chance of Irish Life continuing to survive without state aid.

Irish Life's new chairman, Alan Cook, called the decision "unfair" three times as shareholders complained bitterly about their fate yesterday.

Mr Cook made it plain that he believes Irish Life to be a victim of the Government's need to convince the markets that Ireland Inc is well capitalised. Describing the €4bn demand as a "killer punch", he dismissed BlackRock's scenarios as "a set of artificial assumptions".

It almost goes without saying that the last remark is meaningless twaddle. All scenarios are "meaningless assumptions" but it is a basic rule of business life, and indeed real life, that one looks at what might happen.

Almost every government assumption since the liquidity crisis began in 2007 has been overly optimistic and chipped away at Ireland's credibility overseas.

It was time for some new assumptions and it is far too early to say whether those assumptions are pessimistic or optimistic.

Certainly, it is too early for Mr Cook to make a definitive statement; he is only in the job four weeks and the bitter lessons of the past show it takes a long, long time to determine the real quality of Irish loan books.

Mr Cook revealed yesterday that Irish Life hired legal firm Goodbodys to examine the legality of the Central Bank's demands. The lack of any subsequent legal action suggests the lawyers advised the Central Bank was well within its rights.

One shareholder, Piotr Skoczylas, of London-based Scotchstone Capital, made the point repeatedly that any central bank can drive any financial services company out of business by changing the rules.

While this is undoubtedly the case, it is hardly news. Central banks regulate high street lenders and are entitled to boss them around. Especially when those lenders depend on central banks for survival.

While the Central Bank and BlackRock did what they had to do, there is little doubt that IL&P's shareholders have suffered most and may yet have good reason to feel aggrieved.

- Thomas Molloy
Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher? j3richo
j3richo:

Mr Cook

 
19.05.11 11:11

Also verstehe ich das richtig, dass der neue CEO den letzten Stress-Test anzweifelt?

Er ist hier der Insider warum sollte er so eine klare Ansage machen gleich zu Anfang- ohne ungefähr zu wissen wie es mit seinem Unternehmen steht.

"Mr Cook made it plain that he believes Irish Life to be a victim of the Government's need to convince the markets that Ireland Inc is well capitalised. Describing the €4bn demand as a "killer punch", he dismissed BlackRock's scenarios as "a set of artificial assumptions"."


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